No were not being crazy....were just playing Disc Golf with XXX discs!  This is a VERY overstable Fairway Driver that is not for the faint of heart.  You need a strong arm to throw this disc! It performs excellent in headwinds and the XXX will withstand any throwers arm.  This disc has the most reliable fade I have seen in any frisbee on the market to date.  With a rating of 5, they are not joking!  

Speed: 7 Glide: 2 Turn: 0 Fade: 5    |    PDGA Approval Date: 11/21/08